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The original was posted on /r/bestofredditorupdates by /u/LucyAriaRose on 2024-09-14 04:08:48+00:00.
I am NOT the Original Poster. That is u/countrysports. He posted in r/landscaping, r/tortoise and r/JusticeForPudding.
Thanks to u/jus256 u/zandyro and u/ClaireBearFoodAffair for all recommending this post!
Do NOT comment on Original Posts. Latest update is 7 days old.
Trigger Warnings: murder of a pet; property damage
Mood Spoiler: sad but it’s bringing people together
Original Post: September 5, 2024
Came back from a weeklong vacation, and found that our backyard was sprayed with maybe a herbicide. Does anyone know what could’ve caused this, we found our tortoise dead just now. The cactus are melted and there are obvious spray marks on them.
Image description:
A yard with a large section of dead grass in a strange pattern
Relevant Comments:
Commenter: Get a ladder and look over all 3 neighboring yards to see if they were affected too. It’s not common, but explanation would be an aircraft dumping fuel. Make sure it’s isolated to you.
OOP: We did, the neighbor who we think is responsible is untouched
(to another commenter): I’m a pilot, aviation or jet fuel would burn up and evaporate before reaching the ground in this heat. Plus the spray and radius of the drop wouldn’t be so concentrated
Commenter: Chief suspect identified. Is it the same neighbor who lives on the side closest to the center of the dead grass? If so you can (and should) sue them
OOP: We will if needed, but this post has helped me press my girlfriends dad to file a police report, my girlfriend are just sad we lost the tortoise, we have a new puppy we are worried about too
Commenter: Any of your neighbour’s have beef with your tortoise? Seems like a very half assed over the fence spray that was intended to hurt something…I hate to think the worst of your neighbour’s but they are looking pretty guilty right now.
OOP: Nah we have two and they definitely wouldn’t even know they are there. Desert tortoises are very peaceful and they never leave their burrows which were behind the brick fence of their enclosure
Commenter: I’m sorry for your loss
OOP: Thank you, we just rescued her from a shelter several months ago, but our other one is doing fine so far thank goodness
Commenter: I also don’t believe dermal contact with herbicide would kill an animal, especially a tortoise with a shell and thick skin. Irritation probably, but death more than likely not. As the other commenter said probably something caustic.
Edit: You for sure should confront your neighbors about this. As long as they aren’t the type to fly off the handle
OOP: He’s denied anything but it clearly came from his yard. And he hates my girlfriends dad
Commenter: Wait wait. Like tortoise as in the reptile??!? If so, helllll no. That’s some serial killer shit. No way someone is getting away with killing a pet that is supposed to live for 80-150+ years.
OOP: Yea the tortoise was around 20 years old, perfectly fine yesterday and we found her dead just now, she definitely died because of the poison or wayever was dumped
Mini Update in Comments: 5 hours later
Thank you everyone for your support and advice, I am sorting through making a game plan to talk to my gfs dad in the morning. So far we are going to file a police report after 1. Contacting department of agriculture/health about getting a sample of what was used. 2. Game and Fish were we rescued Pudding our tortoise because it’s highly illegal to kill an endangered desert tortoise.
OOP clarifies:
50,000 dollar fine at max for killing a desert tort, I just buried her so I hope I don’t have to dig her back up
Did they talk to the neighbor:
We did he denied any involvement
Commenter: My buddy had this happen. He had the local department of agriculture come out and take soil samples. They found out that the neighbor had poisoned his trees and yard. The lawsuit is now moving forward.
OOP: That’s good to hear, thank you. Pretty damn sure this is what happened. Gonna call EPA, department of agriculture, game and fish. Anyone I can find to give Justice to Pudding
Cameras:
We have cameras coming in tomorrow, we have a 4 month old puppy, 2 other dogs and another tortoise. It’s gonna be tough but I’m gonna figure something out
To many others’ offers to help:
Im recruiting, justice for Pudding. Who’s making the shirts
Update Post 1: a few hours later
Title: Update #1 Justice for Pudding the tortoise. Up close look of damage
Here’s a better look if anyone else was curious
Image descriptions:
Image 1: a partly dead cactus that almost looks like it’s melting
Image 2: dying leaves off of a tree/bush
Image 3: blanched cactus that also looks kind of melted
Image 4: dead bush
Image 5-7: a cactus that looks like melted wax and asparagus
Relevant Comments:
Commenter: Yuck… I hope your idiot neighbors have deep pockets, cause this looks EXPENSIVE.
OOP: Just talked to game and fish about my endangered tort, they coming for their asses
Commenter: I hope you can file a civil lawsuit in addition to the criminal case that should be brought forth. Animal cruelty is heinous. What kind of tortoise was Pudding?
OOP: A Sonoran desert tortoise, heavily protected, we adopted her from game and fish
Mini Update in Comments: September 6, 2024 (about 10 hours later)
Talked to GFD last night, I’ll be in contact with an officer at some point today. And I think the insurance agent is a good idea
Update Post 2: September 6, 2024 (5 hours later)
Editor’s note: This post has been removed by the mods of landscaping, but it contained pictures of Pudding and her sister. Most likely the removal was due to the fact the post did not technically have anything to do with landscaping.
Relevant Comments:
Commenter: Justice for Pudding!! 🐢
What’s the other tortoise name? Poor thing, I bet they miss Pudding. That picture of the 2 of them breaks my heart!
OOP: Sugar! She’s doing good we are keeping her away from the grass!
Mini Update in Comments: 2 hours later
A GFD warden just came by and examined everything, he’s going to do some digging for us and once we get a soil sample and stuff done, the GFD will investigate
Mini Update in Comments: September 6, 2024 (a little over 24 hours after first post)
The police officer just left, we filed a report
Relevant Comments:
Commenter: Sorry for your loss. I do believe you contacted the wrong authorities as this looks like a civil dispute and will be settled in small court. Unless your looking to sue the manufacturer company that produced the chemicals, I would assume those contacts made will lead nowhere
OOP: We are just trying to gather as much info as possible before deciding what to do. There’s not any evidence to prove who did this. We are waiting on chemical tests. The officer said there’s not much we can do since we didnt see it happen
Update Post 3: September 7, 2024 (Next day, 2 days after OG post)
*Editor’s note: this post was also…
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Update Post 3: September 7, 2024 (Next day, 2 days after OG post)
Editor’s note: this post was also removed by mods. It was reposted (see below) on the Justice for Pudding sub
Relevant Comments:
Commenter: Just ordered a shirt! Justice for Pudding! I’m curious if this will gain enough traction for the local media to get involved.
OOP: Thank you for your support, I’ve been reached out to by fox 10 and channel 12. But they want to video our house and family. We don’t want to put ourselves out there right now, especially since we fear our neighbors retaliation
Commenter: Have the neighbours responded at all?
OOP: We are gathering as much evidence as possible, and going to let the police handle it if necessary. They would do a better job than me
Mini Update in Comments: 3 hours later
A helpful Redditor’s husband has a connection in the EPA, sending the case through. Once we get these chems tested it’s about to go down
Relevant Comments:
Commenter: I’m a massive turtle and tortoise fan and this has broken my heart. RIP Pudding and good luck bringing your neighbor to justice. I’ll be grabbing a T-shirt or two. Is there also a GoFundMe type thing somewhere to donate to the legal fees more directly?
OOP: The reason I’m doing tshirts is because I feel guilty asking for money for nothing, I just want everyone to get something for their support
Posting the police report:
I will my department takes 7-10 days he said to release it to me, but he said I’ll get copies of the body cam footage along with it. So I’ll post that for sure if we can nail this guy
Justice for Pudding Post: September 7, 2024 (same days, still 2 days from OG post)
Hello everyone!!! My post got taken down from . So I’m posting future updates on here. Thank you all for your continued support and advice it has been so helpful. For anyone interested we are waiting on the AZDA and EPA to come out and test the soil. Here’s the link to the merch if anyone is still interested. Thanks again! JUSTICE FOR PUDDING 💚🐢
https://justice-for-pudding.printify.me/products
Image 1: OOP feeding Pudding
Image 2: Justice for Pudding design by u/PTSDeedee
Relevant Comments:
Commenter: Hey OP, do you have any plans on having Pudding necropsied? I know it is hard, as I had to dig up one of my pets in the past to get necropsied, but it was essential in prosecuting our neighbor who poisoned and killed him.
Hopefully they bring the hammer down on these dumbasses. You’re much more levelheaded than I’d be.
OOP: As we are trying to process everything, it’s hard to dig her back up. If it’s absolutely necessary and recommended to me by authorities I will. However, before doing so, I’m waiting because digging up and freezing my pet for goodness knows how long sickens me and my family.
Commenter: Hey OP, one thing I noticed was that it looks like trees on the neigbour’s side have been damaged as well. Have you been able to get any pictures from the other side of the fence?
OOP: I would but sounds illegal to me, I don’t want to get sued for posting pics their backyard on the internet haha
Commenter (downvoted): OP is just looking for quick cash everyone. Stop falling for this crap. OP realized his post got blown up so he is trying to gain something out of it, such as asking people to buy his merch.
OOP: Never asked for help, the people who are supporting this movement made these designs, I’m selling them for very cheap. I’m sorry if I somehow offended you, but please don’t attack people unless they’ve done something to you
OOP posts a pic of the police report and case number:
Image description: “Your rights as a Crime Victim” with case number, date and officer information
Latest Comments from OOP:
Editor’s note: Because these comments do not contain updates, some of them are from as recently as September 9. But I wanted to make sure to include them to make sure no one got scammed!
Commenter: 🐢Justice for Pudding🐢 this is making it’s rounds on Tiktok now, I’m so sorry your baby suffered. I hope the neighbor gets what he deserves
OOP: I don’t know what to say haha. This is turning into something bigger than I could ever have imagined. I’m worried this will turn into something it’s not without my supervision.
When sent the tiktok link:
Thank you! I was sent the link by personal friends, I’m just worried people will take advantage of this pretending to be me. I’m going to make an account to make sure there’s no fraud going on
Commenter: Hey so I know I’m late to the party but in one of your pictures posting the damage there seemed to have been a pan down with possibly water in it for Pudding? Considering the high heat and lack of rain recently in the area mixed with its proximity to the plants, their may be some trace amounts of whatever was used in that pan that could be used for investigation purposes.
OOP: This is definitely something I’ve noted, a AZDA investigator is coming tomorrow at 12:30 to take samples from the soil, that water dish and some cacti and leaves we’ve separated and saved
Justice For Pudding TikTok Post:
Hey everyone, I made a TikTok just in case, I’m trying to monitor and make sure no one can take advantage of how helpful everyone has been.
It’s u/justice4pudding if anyone wants to know and spread the word in case of future need.
Thank you for making me aware.
OOP also clarified that any gofundme’s are not his and should not be donated to
New Update Post a bit after this BORU was posted:
Not really much has happened, but since people are asking and saying this is fake somehow. I’m just trying to address everything. Police report has been filed, I posted the number out there if anyone is interested, so there’s your proof for everyone thinking it’s fake, the department of agriculture took the case, came over and took samples. However this takes time, I want justice but now we have to be patient the longest part will be waiting for the results. But the very nice investigator said it’s most likely a contact spray (his words) most likely the chemical diquad.
For everyone who bought shirts and other stuff, I’ve received notifications that the majority of orders have been delivered so please send me pictures I would love to see them! Thank you all for the support again, hopefully this helped clear the air from all the doubters.
A reminder- do NOT comment on Original Posts. Editor’s Note: Just wanted to include this sweet conversation somewhere (this was after the post was crossposted to the Arizona subreddit)
ivorycircles: Sweet Pudding, I’m so happy you guys are getting justice. I wish I had taken more photos of her when she was still at TAP!
OOP: Oh my goodness! Are you the lady who was caring for her when we adopted Pudding!?
ivorycircles: Yes! It’s okay if you don’t remember me, I know you adopted Pudding back in May! But I was the intern Sofia who helped you with the adoption. I was so sorry to hear about Pudding-- I recognized her name right away and the photos of your backyard from your adoption application and my heart breaks for you and your girlfriend. I hope the both of you can heal from this horrible experience and if the time ever comes where you think you may want to adopt another tortoise, please don’t hesitate to contact me!
OOP: Thank you so much for helping us pick her, she was so incredibly special. Obviously it’s going to be a while to get the backyard back in shape for our other tortoise, but we definitely need some time before adopting another. No one could replace pudding 🥲
Editor’s note: No idea why the last comment I included keeps getting deleted…
#justice4pudding
