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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/VolarRecords on 2024-09-18 08:18:36+00:00.


Thanks to all who have been reading this series the past week. Again, this was bonkers enough to research and has felt bonkers to walk around with and now feels bonkers to write. This whole story isn’t just that we’re not alone, that NHI are here, whatever they are, but that the real secrecy behind this subject has largely to do with a small group from the outset exploiting exotic tech for their own gain and then essentially dictating how those of us not in power lived for the next eighty years.

Here are parts 1-4:

Part 1:

Part 2:

Part 3:

Part 4:

The original players were the Bush family and their associates before, during and after WWII after recovering the Magenta, Italy 1933 crash via backchanneling from the Vatican, and then these same people setting up the CIA post-Roswell to hide what they were doing as they recovered more UFO/UAP crash-retrievals, build the US MIC, and help destroy the world.

In Part Five of this series, we’ll start with EG&G. I only knew to start pulling on that thread months ago after rewatching a talk that Ross Coulthart gave at the Victorian State Library on August 12, 2023, especially the last five minutes, timestamped here:

I really recommend the whole talk as well as the Q&A, and he returned a couple of months later for a long talk.

First, he brings up a patch that reads ‘Measure, Analyze, Protect’ that he’d shown earlier in his talk right about 4:00 in. In that first bit of info about the patch, one that he got from a guy who had a relative who worked at Area 51, he talks about how he first brought up the patch on a recent-at-the-time Need to Know Podcast episode, and because Ross didn’t actually have the patch at the time, a lot of skeptics and debunkers started calling them out. This infuriated the guy so much that he said “fuck it, you can run it,” so Ross presented that patch here for the first time.

‘Measure, Analyze, Protect’ patch by a secret Area 51

The patch belongs to a team at Area 51 that is involved in reverse-engineering, and the relative worked there as a data configuration specialist, in charge of collecting data from engineering tests and storing it in large, secure vaults. He had access that many others didn’t. He worked with a group of ten individuals who worked on terrestrial craft, but he alleged that are groups within EG&G, the former administrators of Area 51. There was an EG&G engineer who told relatives in 1997 that he and his team had been working on non-human technology. He said that in the room where this material was kept, there was a huge image on the wall of an egg-shaped craft that had been found fully intact, resting on the desert floor of a remote US location. Basically the picture of the patch came from that data configuration specialist’s study when the young man who was very interested in Area 51 took it.

Jump to the last four-plus minutes in the original clip above when he brings the patch back up and proceeds to talk about the fifteenth episode of season one of Star Trek: The Next Generation titled "11001001, first broadcast in 1988, before that photo was snapped. I actually watched this episode twice when I first watched this talk. It’s about these binary aliens called the Bynars who steal the Enterprise to save their home planet from the shockwaves of a supernova that would destroy the computers that would keep life going on their planet and store the data of their planet on the Enterprise. Ross says the episode’s about the power and dangers of technology, but that he still can’t figure out what the patch includes the 11001001 and asks the audience (which includes us!) to try and figure it out. The guy who owned the patch had a conversation with a scientist who told him there was a crash retrieval program.

Ross then goes on to say that info came from someone with direct knowledge of a crash retrieval program at Area 51. The guy then goes on to say that Bob Lazar did work at Area 51 but only for a brief period of time and doesn’t know as much as he lets on, that most of it is fabricated nonsense. In actuality, the guy says, they could never figure out how the craft worked, nor could they even open it, and that S-4 is only a group of radio towers. He says there are no hangars built into the side of the mountain housing nine saucers as Lazar claims. Said there was no way Lazar smuggled out the up close picture of the egg-shaped craft because they and their vehicles are routinely searched, and no one wants to take the risk because it’s a nice place to work. People work for the long haul, to retire, with companies like EG&G and JT4. Assumed that since this was going to be online, people were going to nuts. Did that ever happen?

Pulling all this from EG&G’s Wikipedia:

EG&G, formally known as Edgerton, Germeshausen, and Grier, Inc., was a United States national defense contractor and provider of management and technical services. The company was involved in contracting services to the United States government during World War II and conducted weapons research and development during the Cold war era (from 1948 and onward).[1]: 3 It had close involvement with some of the government’s most sensitive technologies.

Early history

In 1931, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor Harold Edgerton, a pioneer of high-speed photography, partnered with his graduate student Kenneth Germeshausen to found a small technical consulting firm.[2] The two were joined by fellow MIT graduate student Herbert E. Grier in 1934. Bernard “Barney” O’Keefe became the fourth member of their fledgling technology group.

The group’s high-speed photography was used to image implosion tests during the Manhattan Project. The same skills in precisely timed high-power electrical pulses also formed a key enabling technology for nuclear weapon triggers. After the war, the group continued their association with the burgeoning military nuclear effort and formally incorporated Edgerton, Germeshausen, and Grier, Inc. in 1947.[3]

[This is that 1947 reference, the digital records site for Edgerton. Funny enough the company was called EGG initially.]

EG&G the Company: 1947 Onwards

The three colleagues and friends Harold Edgerton, Kenneth Germeshausen, and Herbert Grier became an incorporated partnership in 1947 at the request of the Atomic Energy Commission. Now known as EG&G, Inc., they designed and operated systems that timed and triggered nuclear bomb tests.

So EG&G was initially a high-speed photography company used by the US military to film nuclear tests, among other things, and post-Roswell, the AEC asked the company to become more official in order to contract out weapons-testing services, among other things. Sounds like EG&G was the OG private contractor hiding work being done by the USG.

1950s and 1960s

**During the 1950s and 1960s, EG&G was involved in nuclear tests as a major contractor for the Atomic Energy Commission. EG&G made extensive use of the Nevada Test Site (NTS) for weapons development and high-technology military testing at Nellis AFB. EG&G has shared operations responsibility for the NTS with Livermore Labs, Raytheon …


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