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The original was posted on /r/thedeprogram by /u/sexyprimes511172329 on 2024-11-10 17:10:50+00:00.

Note: Everything I wrote in this post are things that we discuss in local black communities in NC all the time. I would never have bothered explaining all this since we know dems don’t listen to us or understand our experience but since it seems like this election might make some of you more open minded i’m giving it a shot.

The reason we did not vote has nothing to do with Kamala and very little to do with this election in particular. My community always has a low voter turn out and lots of people I know have NEVER voted. If my community and communities like it actually voted NC would go blue way more often.

That being said I never see anyone truly understand why we forgo voting. I’ve watch all kinds of political media where people sit around and theorize why poor black men don’t vote, but you know what they never do? Ask poor black men… (Broke black men do not have a political voice and that hits at the problem.)

We don’t abstain from voting because we are ignorant or dumb. Yes we might have less education on paper because the community is poor, the k-12 is trash, and college is ridiculously expensive but we are politically aware and know what’s going on. After discussing with my friends and community we came to the conclusion that Kamala was objectively better for society than Trump. The tariffs and tax policy are honestly just bad for the average American and we know that. That being said only one 1 or 2 black men I know actual went to vote. The rest of us did not vote because we simply do not care about society or its trajectory.

As far as we are concerned society does not care about us so we do not care about society. The democrats are the establishment and even though they won’t make things worse, they have no intention of upending the class system.

Here is what lead to this mentality:

1. LIFE IN POOR BLACK COMMUNITIES IS REMARKABLY CONSISTENT:

During Clintons presidency life was ass, during Bush’s presidency life was ass, during Obamas presidency life as ass, during Trumps presidency life was ass, during Biden presidency life was ass, and we are convinced that no matter who won this election life would continue to be ass. We simply have nothing to lose and when America is doing well we do not get to partake in the gains. As quality of life dropped in America our lives stayed the same while the average American began to live more and more like us. And as the average American got poorer they suddenly began to understsnd systemic inequality and the impact of generational wealth and poverty. Maybe Trumps reforms will be a good thing because as the cost of living rises more of America will wake tf up.

2. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT US THEY JUST WANT OUR VOTES.

When it comes to our communities the Democratic Party practices a principle of benign neglect. They say I’m listening, I hear you… Then do as little as possible for our community. The have simply taken our vote for granted and believe that it is owed to them. The black men who do vote were overwhelmingly Kamala supporters but we had Obama already calling us mysoginists before the election… They do not care about us, our perspectives, or experiences we are simply a useful statistic. Many of us have actually begun to believe that voting so overwhelmingly democrat is part of the problem. Why would the democrats actually try to help us if we are going to vote for them regardless? If our vote is always guaranteed then the democrats best strategy is to ignore us, focus on other issues, and shame/scare us into voting for them when it’s time.

3. LOCAL DEMS HAVE BEEN PLAYING IN OUR FACES

When the Dems actually do things for our community it is rarely something that is truly transformative for the community. Rather what they do is create pathways for a few phenomenal black people to succeed. Their policies give us room to succeed as individuals but not as a group! But the thing is not everyone can be above average. All the super smart black people get college scholarships but there are millions of us. Not all of us can be super smart and get a scholarship. To help the community and not just raise your select DEI tokens we need systemic change and they would never do that since it threatens the class system that puts those local dems at the top in the first place. I live in a heavily democratic area is shit is so rigged you would not believe it. My freshman year of high school they even restricted people from taking AP classes based on neighborhood to rig school rankings (AP’s at my high school were weighted +2 so an A in an AP was a 6). That has changed now but that is just one example of local dems giving lip serviced and then using their power to further rig the class system. We have seen this shit done in our face forever so no we don’t belive the dems really want to help the community.

4. LOTS OF BLACK PEOPLE ARE SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE

Lots of black people are socially conservative and actually agree with a lot of republican social policy. I personally am not against LGBTQ+ or abortion but many of the black women in my life (who voted Kamala by the way) are heavily against abortion and all things LGBTQ. Black people support the dems despite their social beliefs for ECONOMIC REAONS ONLY, so the people who have already given up hope on their economic situation are not motivated to vote.

5. DOWN HERE BLACK MENS LIVES DON’T MATTER

When the Black Lives Matter protest broke out we got to hear everyone and their momas opinion on the movement. The only demographic that did not get a chance to get a word in was the demographic most effected, BROKE BLACK MEN. As a veteran broke black man, here is what we were thinking: We appreciate the sentiment we really do, but we simply know that the our lives don’t matter down here. At no point in our lives were we ever allowed the delusion that our lives, safety, opinions, emotions, or general well being mattered as much as a white woman’s. Growing up I was told that I should never be alone with a white woman since I would get Emitt Tilled. I was told that that in a 1v1 in court white women will win. Im 25 this was not long ago. In fact just recently my friend went on a tinder date with this liberal white girl and she accused him of dragging her 20 feet with her car. This girl did not have a scratch on her she was just crazy but they still took it to court. The case was eventually thrown out due to how ridiculous it was but he spent thousands he did not have trying to defend himself. His lawyer, a white man, literally told him, “Your a black man she is a white woman you know how it is.” And this is in a city that is OVERWHELMINGLY democrat. In short, as black men our lives do not matter under democrat or republican rule. We are not more scared now that at any other time in our lives.

6. WE DO NOT LIKE HOW DEMS REPRESENT US IN ALL FORMS OF MEDIA

The democrats have been pushing representation in media for a while and yes representation is important but it is so painfully obvious that the people representing us often know NOTHING about black people. Often times we hate the black characters the libs give (Finn from Star Wars in a great example, no ni*** fucks with him). If I had a dollar for every pathetic ass black male character written by some white suburban millennial from California who doesn’t even know what ashy knees are I be able to immigrate already. Again we don’t complain about this to much since I understand their hearts are in the right place but as far as we are concerned democrats representing us the way they do is not the favor they think it is. Rather it highlights the arrogance and ignorance towards our people. If western media had never before included black men in any way shape or form black men would probably be better off.

I could go on but this post is going long enough. The main point is that black men in particular only vote for the democrats for economic reasons. And yes Kamala’s policies are economically better for us but the truth is many of us have simply given up on society already. Society turned their back on us long ago and only give us lip service and shit representation while our lives remain trash. Most of the black men in poor NC communities are doomer crash outs or aspiring immigrants. We are completely disconnected from society at this point and we have no stake in the game. Whether America goes up or down is not longer a concern to us. We voted democrat for years and our community is now in WORSE shape then in the MLK days. Yes individual black people are doing better than ever, but as a whole our families are destroyed, housing is more unaffordable than ever, our factory jobs were sent over seas, during the crack epidemic the dems did not have our backs, and the aftershocks of these things decimated us.

The dems upheld the status quo and class system locally and federally and they once again want us to come out and save America for others. Were done. Were tired.

EDIT: Everyone in the comments saying I am a coward giving up on my future, I want you to know I have many plans for my future. I plan on immigrating to a country where I am not politically homeless. I have been working on it for years and I am getting close. I will not be here by the next election. Many of my friends and family are coming with me.

I made this post hoping that some of you can come to understand th…

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