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The original was posted on /r/hobbydrama by /u/Flares117 on 2025-02-01 20:01:52+00:00.
Now that 2+ weeks has past, I can no compile and combine my 2 popular posts on SRD that was recommended to be posted here.
Original Threads (don’t worry, I’ll combine them here, but in case you wanna read the reactions from the other sub) -
Context :
More in depth threads when it first happened in China over at the r/gachagaming subreddit I’ll post now. Ill typing this on mobile will clean it up later
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best article on the topic
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timeline of patch history post daiyan
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Announcement just a few minutes ago with comments deleted
Recommend the first post if interested.
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Context : Again first post is the best written one on the topic, but I’ll try to somehow summarize it. Girl’s Frontline was a relatively niche community in the west, I will abbreviate it as GFL and GFL2. GFL2, now has a MASSIVE playerbase spike due to Global server launch in the West with 2+million new players. However, unlike other gachs games, it almost died in China. It is a standard gacha, where you roll for characters or girls and they are named after guns as they are waifu robots. Every robot or T-Doll as they are called in game has an event or storyline that introduces them, many of them were from the first game.
The game heavily promotes storylines and player interactions with the dolls. You can gift them to raise affinity and marry them (or giving them “covenant rings”). Every event has allusions to you fucking them, but written as it could mean anything. “special night training sessions”, “special exercise commander, make sure you have the stamina for this”, “you should know I have a night bonus”, etc you can visit the gfl2 sub right now to see some posts In GFL2, you can pose them and watch them sleep in their dorms. The point is, it is a very parasocial interaction with these dolls. Fans from Gfl1 proclaim their love for their specific doll with hundreds of hentai doujins, body pillows, keychains, and covenant ring. In China, there is even a themed store where you can buy wedding rings for each doll.
Gacha games are usually F2P live service video games, typically mobile with some PC versions where you “pull” or roll for characters like you would a slot machine. Costs can very from 50 cent a “pull” to 5$ a pull for some of the spendy gachas. Typically you pull for “waifus” or girl characters in the popular gachas, some games have transitioned as they found people would usually only pull for female characters. Then some added romance.
This is alot to unpack, so take your time to digest this info and read the aforementioned links before diving in. This will be a post split into 3 segments, featuring 3 gacha communities and their relation to the event. I do not expect you to read all of this drama in one go. I just had extra time cause of my last post.
Drama
In China, shortly after release they released a new limited T Doll or girl, Daiyan who is a returning character and a Chinese favorite, as she is Chinese or Asian.
However, during the event storyline, she talked with Raymond, a name that is now infamous.
The short of it is, Raymond has the audacity to talk to our doll as an attractive male side character and our doll thanked him.
The full summarized story is, Raymond is a terrorist and heard daiyan singing at an event, he was moved, talked to her about his life story and trauma, then changed his ways. He was arrested, he wrote a letter to her thanking her and saying he loved her singing and her. She continues writing back that he can change, blah blah. That’s it. She never proclaims her love for him, just trying to help him.
However, the CN community dug deep into the game files and voice files and noted Raymond was said 66 times, whereas the MC had 0 voicelines mentioning us. They also noted 50/66 lines was MR. Raymond. Then the outrage occurred. To them, this was Raymond cucking the protag. They then started saying devs want to cuck us with a terrorist, etc etc. They wrote daiyan into being a whore and the like. This is amplified by the fact that Diayan had a job as a singer and the event stated she ENTERTAINED high end clients. They took it as euphemism she is whoring herself out.
The backlash was immense. Within a few weeks, GFL2 dropped out of top 200 in revenue
Another game, Snowbreak, took shots at the GFL deva
By pro claiming they would never cuck their players
In the comments on the Chinese threads Google translated you can see players from almost every big gacha game calling everyone who plays GFL2 a green hat or a cuck. (green hat is an insult for cuck there)
Even now the stigma of being a cuck game is prevalent in the community leading to a small schism BTW gfl1 and 2 subs. See below
The incident is known as the “Raymond” incident and is a touchy subject now.
The drama became so large, the story got rewritten TWICE. with one rewrite changing Raymond into a girl, before scrapping most of the dialogue. The VA in China apologized for saying her lines publicly and the game director released an apology video.
Again, over 1event.
The game never recovered in China and is still relatively unpopular today there.
In comes Global. GFL2 experiences a massive resurgence with over 20 mill first month of global.
However, today Daiyan was announced as next character in Global and the drama is returning as the subs are extra vigilant during this chaotic time. Many wonder if the game will experience a repeat of the drama. On Twitter, and other sites, Chinese bots and some fans are stirring shit again. On the official Twitter the announcement post has dozens of mentions of Raymond NTR.
On the Chinese forums, some people and mostly trolls commissioned NTR daiyan hentai to dm users who post about daiyan. I cannot overstate how many gacha players in China harass GFL2 players for being cucks. Now with global, they are starting another campaign. As of now hundreds of new ntr posts are created on those sites (you know which ones). They are using AI to make most of them in order to flood the sites with them.
Part 2 Update
Prologue : Aftermath of GFL2 and r/girlsfrontline - Short segment
- Voice Actress was replaced after harassment campaign and apology statement - You can read more on that in og post. For voicing the character, she apologized, but gone quiet and the studio cannot contact her. AFAIK and from numerous posts, she is done with that side of the community.
New events are unvoiced as they transition voice actresses.
- Storyline was finally rewritten 3 times. First by changing the male character to a girl, then removing the character entirely, then removing the entire terrorist plot.
- While NTR nsfw content was spammed, CN users who participated in trying to kill GFL2 in the west stopped after realizing western audiences don’t care and some enjoyed receiving free porn.
- Snowbreak released a story update. The MAIN point (some ppl will say there is more to it and I WILL GET THERE), is in the story a shapeshifter shifts into one of your pullable girls, and sleeps with the bad guy. Your girl does not sleep with them, a shapeshifter shifts into her and sleeps with them. This sparks SEVERE backlash by the community within 24 hours (12 hours really).
- The devs had an emergency livestream, where they profusely apologized for the update -
- People in CN and the West threatened a boycott and chargebacks regarding the game (comments will be posted after summary)
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Part 1 - Snowbreak Controversy - I will put the comments at the end of the segment.
Context - Snowbreak devs initially participated in the harassment and mocking of GFL players and devs - There are dozens of posts on weibo/billibilli etc. To Summarize, the devs went, “We would never do this to our players, etc etc”. So their userbreak harassed GFL players calling them cucks/greenhats.
Drama - However, last month, after the initial harassment of GFL players, they had their own controversial NTR/CUCK drama