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I am NOT OOP, OOP is u/Pretend_Mode_9494
Originally posted to r/AITAH
AITA for refusing to babysit my nephews again for free?
Thanks to u/soayherder for suggesting this BoRU
Editor’s note: changed letters to names for ease of readability
Trigger Warnings: emotional abuse and manipulation, exploitation, verbal abuse
Original Post: February 12, 2025
I’m 29 f, child free by choice. My sister Carlene is 27 f, has two boys ages 3.5 and 2. We live close to each other and I’ve been in their lives since the beginning. We are each other’s only family, we come from a broken and dysfunctional family. I love the boys but they are a lot of work, especially on top of my own career in social work and my personal reasons for not wanting kids of my own.
I watch them / help out/ babysit probably 10-20 hours a week currently, and it’s getting exhausting. The times I’ve been needed have slowly increased and over the last seven-ish months it’s been like this. At first it was Carlene looking for a part time job, going to mandated courses to get unemployment, occasional movie nights with friends etc which I was ok with. Now I spend most of my free time at their house. Lately the cause has been that her best friend’s mom is dying and Carlene needs to be there. She’s a single mom and I get that it’s hard, but recently I feel like she’s using me and I rarely see my fiance as we both work shifts that change all the time.
Sometimes when she’s asked me to watch them and I’ve had some other plans, Carlene sends me a voice message of the boys crying, missing me, guilt tripping me, saying it’s such a shame I care more about myself than them. Telling me she would ask someone else if she had anyone else to ask. Saying really mean things about me being selfish for wanting to enjoy date night when she has to choose between her kids and her best friend’s dying mom. I could handle if that’s all it was but now it’s also affecting the next time we meet.
When I get there, the house is a mess, there’s nothing to eat and they “happen” to have a day for a shower/bath, or Carlene casually mentions I need to put together a gym bag or something similar for them for the next day. These weird, extra things that are obviously revenge. The first time this happened I assumed she’d be grateful I helped where I could but it wouldn’t be an issue if I didn’t have time to do everything. I was quickly proven wrong. Before she got home she casually asked if I had done the extra things and when I hadn’t (not all anyway), she “suddenly” had to stay a little later. This happened a few times and I’m ashamed to admit it took me too long to understand what was happening. I was just glad she was updating me on her estimated arrival timr, she usually never did that.
Another thing she does for revenge (I feel like, could be my exhausted interpretation) is not prepare meals for the kids, or even leave money. When I go to the store she promises to pay me back but, you guessed it, tries to guilt me into saying she doesn’t have to pay. She’s also not kept her word about some things she’d promised, saying she doesn’t want to do things for me if I can’t help her with the boys. The excuses and backtracking on stuff start immediately if I don’t do exactly what she wants. The latest example: I asked to borrow a dress for a wedding because I didn’t want to buy one and we had always borrowed each other’s clothes, and she agreed. Four days before the wedding I couldn’t show up as fast as she wanted on a short notice so she said I could forget about borrowing the dress, she’d forgotten she’d need it herself. I had to panic buy one. Last month she promised to pick me up after leaving my car for some maintenance and she didn’t show up, I was stranded. Took her 2,5 hours to answer her phone and get there. She also had the audacity to huff and puff about how inconvenient it was she had to drive me.
Sorry this is so long, but it’s been mind blowing writing this all down and seeing what I’m putting up with, I’m such a doormat.
So yesterday I told her I couldn’t come today when she called “desperately needing” me to watch the boys for the evening, and when she started her tirade of me being selfish I kind of just snapped. I told her to shut up and listen. If she thought I was that horrible of a human and so selfish, she had two options. Either stop relying on me so much and letting her kids be exposed to my selfishness, or I’ll really start being selfish and will not watch them free of charge ever again, never do anything extra without being compensated. She hung up without saying anything.
After I had stopped shaking (I hate confrontation as you can imagine) I started to really panic as I feel like I just lost my last remaining family member. My fiance said it was long time coming and I should’ve stood up for myself ages ago, but he’s biased as he loves me. I don’t really have time for proper friends outside work colleagues so I don’t know who else to ask if I made the biggest mistake of my life? What if I don’t see my nephews again? What if I had just done it a bit longer and she’d eased a bit? AITA for telling her to choose between my options?
ETA: my two examples seem like I ask her or need her for stuff often, which I don’t. The promises she breaks can be just as simple as having food for the boys for when I’m with them. The dress and leaving me without a ride are just specific events that were easier to explain but I quickly realised it’s not accurate.
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Relevant Comments
Commenter 1: Your sister is extremely irresponsible and selfish to the core. Is she receiving child support from the father of her children? If so, she should budget for day care and babysitting. If not, she should pursue legal action. Having kids is a full-time responsibility and she needs to accept this fact. NTA.
OOP: I don’t actually know that much about her finances, we don’t really talk I guess. I don’t particularly like her as a person. My nephews are the only thing that keep me going back in addition to the weird obligation I feel for the little family I have left.
Commenter 2: NTA. Stop taking her calls. Stand up for yourself. And if you think the boys are in a not great home (abuse, neglect, no food), call CPS.
OOP: I’m a mandated reporter due to my profession and I’ve been trying to distance myself from the situation to assess if I need to make the report but it’s always so subtle and she knows what to avoid doing and saying due to growing up with CPS.
Commenter 3: Where is the kids’ father? He should be involved.
OOP: I don’t actually know. She got irrationally angry I asked about him when she was pregnant and I left it at that.
Commenter 4: You know that not seeing your nephews again is NEVER going to happen. Your selfish sister has been taking advantage of you for too long, and to her, your standing up for yourself is just a temporary setback in her manipulations. The only way her behavior is going to change is when yours changes. You need to set some clear boundaries and follow them with solid expectations of how you expect her to treat you. For example, guilt tripping, name calling, accusations, etc. are to end . If she tries any of these manipulative tactics, there will be clear consequences. And you need to follow through. If you tell her you can’t babysit and she starts the guilt, you tell her something like no babysitting for a month because of her behavior. Altering your behavior is the only way you can change hers. Oh, and all those times she needs to comfort her “friend” with the dying mother—you realize those are just bs. She wants free from kids time and is just trying to play on your empathy. Your sister is a class A asshole!
OOP: Thank you. I feel so stupid, I only thought about the friend’s mom thing being bs like last week. I asked C how she was doing and she took a second too long to remember what I was talking about.
Commenter 5: What has your sister done for you in the last year? It sounds like you are a doormat. None of what you said sounds unreasonable. You need to put boundaries NOW or it will get worse. I imagine you want to start a family with your fiance at some point, you cannot keep this up. NTA
OOP: I’m not even wanting a family of my own, no pets nor kids. Regardless I want to live for myself. She has allowed me to see the boys, that’s mostly it. I couldn’t imagine not being in their lives.
Additional Information from OOP after reading comments
OOP: Thanks for all the replies, there’s been so many helpful ones already. I’ve tried to at least answer all questions. I just have to plan out the boundaries and then practice how to set them and maybe even write down answers for the rebuttals I know she’ll have. For those worried about my fiance, he’s a quiet, steady rock for me, he’s been somewhat enjoying his gaming time without me around so I hope he hasn’t suffered too much. I’ll focus on communicating with him better too. We’re getting married in summer of '26 so we’ll have to focus on us.
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Update: February 15, 2025 (three days later)
TLDR: My (29 f) sister Carlene (27 f) has two boys (3.5 and 2) and Carlene uses me as a free babysitter almost every day. It’s gotten worse with her name calling me if I have other plans and her punishing me and the kids next time by leaving the house messy and not preparing food, only coming home after I’ve done what she demanded (clean, cook, bath time etc). I finally told her I can’t do this anymore and made her choose to either go low contact or agree to my terms watching the boys in the future.
Update:
A lot has happened. I’m trying to write concisely.
During the first 24h after me telling her that ultimatum I decided not to answer her calls or texts to let her cool down. She called 77 times, send over a 100 texts and voice messages. They’re mostly just her calling me a horrible person who abandons her family.
I outlined a few rules with my fiance’s help for the future if she comes to her senses and agrees to my terms. I wanted them to be ready even though it looked like she will never come around. I had conditions like I could watch them up to 3 times in 2 weeks, not more than 4 hours at a time. Meals needed to be provided. No bath time or bed time. I’m not spending any money.
I got messages from an unknown number (fiance says it’s an app or something) saying how horrible of a sister I am because now they have to watch their mom die alone without Carlene there to comfort them. Based on the suspitions I had earlier and the language similarities I think this was my sister pretending to be her friend.
I talked to my supervisor on Friday afternoon and asked for her opinion. I first asked if it was ok to talk about personal stuff and she was great about it. I don’t work with children and CPS has never been a part of my work so I wanted to double check with someone more senior. We made a report together on Carlene. The supervisor said it’s better to do so especially now that it’s escalated and she might retaliate against me by hurting the boys in some way as she’s obviously not above that.
I’m probably going to give her next week to cool off before resuming contact, and depending on what the messages/voice messages say then, I might contact her. If they are as abusive as now, I probably won’t respond at all. It makes me unbelievably upset but I hope the boys will also get a more stable environment without me as she’s using them as pawns with me.
Fiance says hello and wants everyone to know he’s here for me and wants to assure everyone I’m not really that bad of a doormat, just for Carlene for some reason.
I’m looking into counceling through my work, it’s too expensive out of pocket.
Thanks for the messages and the shift kicks I obviously needed. For some reason I’ve become blind to my sister’s behaviour and was only concerned whether I’d lose the boys from my life. Probably will update when/if I resume contact with my sister if people want to know how it goes.
Relevant / Top Comments
Commenter 1: NTA bit I suggest you and your fiance have a discussion about whether or not you would take custody of the kids if it came to that. Your sister sounds like she may land herself in jail or decide to abandon her kids. It’s better to be prepared for any possible outcomes, including CPS removing them from her care.
OOP: Oh wow, true. We definitely don’t want kids but if the option is foster care for them, we might have to take them in. Will talk to my fiance as soon as he gets home from work.
Commenter 2: Is there a reason the father of these children isn’t helping to take care of them? I can’t imagine expecting a family member to step in and handle a significant portion of the parenting of my own children. If she wasn’t prepared to be a parent, she shouldn’t have had two children.
OOP: She got really angry at me when I asked about their dad/s whenever she was pregnant and I just left it at that. She hasn’t had a long term boyfriend since high school as far as I know. I don’t even know if the kids have a same dad, I kind of doubt it due to their differences in skin shade and features.
Commenter 3: Stand your ground, OP. And i hope you can get counseling through work. If anything, check with local churches (some have counseling and other services offered). I hope things work out for you. I understand if you have to go NC with her though.
Commenter 4: I hope you have been keeping all the nasty messages. Because you do need to make sure that you have evidence. Your sister is neurotic and abusive. She bought those kids to this world and it’s her fault, she is a single mother. Who is trying to shirk her duties on someone else, because she is lazy and wants to be a 21 year old. Well sorry but she can’t have that. She is responsible for those kids. Not you.
Additional Information from OOP:
OOP: It’s only Wednesday and I just blocked her. I don’t understand when she sleeps, I’ve been getting messages/calls every 2-4 hours since last week. I’m crying because it feels like I’m shutting my nephews out but this is exhausting. My fiance has been checking the messages twice a day making sure there’s nothing important in between, I haven’t read any of them. It’s just her calling me names and cursing at this point, not even coherent sentences. Nothing on the CPS report yet.
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