Hi all! As promised, here is the proposed text of the newest version of the rules. The staff has gone through like eight drafts and literally thousands and thousands of matrix posts to get here, so please be kind. You can see @limeey’s comment on the transparency post if you want more insight into how this sausage was made.

We are opening these rules to commentary from the community before they go into effect. To be clear, this isn’t a vote, but we will take all community feedback into account and answer whatever questions we can before finalizing anything.

Please keep in mind that we are not Reddit, we do not have Reddit’s resources, and safety and consent are our priorities.

I’ll post the draft in two parts in two comments: The new sidebar, and the FAQ/clarifications page.

  • Neeka
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    31 year ago

    This whole take would mean that it’s fine to share revenge porn because you found it uploaded somewhere, and that it’s up to the victim to chase down every copy faster than it can be shared, and hope mods everywhere are active and responsive enough to remove it before it gets shared again.

    Maybe that is the best practice we can offer, it does seem kind of shitty though.

    • @[email protected]
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      01 year ago

      I mean that’s not what I’m suggesting, but that’s kinda how the world works today.

      Ideally you’d need a register of known hashes of material, but that’s not even enough either.

      Proper fingerprinting would require a lot more processing power and a centralized source to vet against.

      Super difficult topic tbh.

      But I guess the moral is as always: don’t take pictures, or let anyone take pictures, that you don’t want to show to your parents or grandparents.

      • Kelly Sunshine
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        1 year ago

        You realize a lot of revenge porn out there was coerced, right? Or the people were drunk, underage, in abusive relationships, etc…

        Your post is essentially saying “you let yourself get photographed naked, deal with the consequence.”

        Life is full of nuance, my guy. Instead of victim blaming, let’s all agree that none of us want to see/share NC content.

        If you find a random professionally shot image or vid, it won’t be hard to ID the model or studio, as there’s usually a watermark. If the person was working, you can be pretty sure they signed a release for the photo to be put online. Whether that content was stolen from behind a paywall is another question.

        If it’s an amateur, it becomes more difficult to determine. Here are some ways I think you can tell;

        Likely Consensual:

        • The person CLEARLY without question is an adult.
        • They look like they’re having a good time.
        • They know they are being photographed/filmed.
        • They are sober.
        • You have seen them post OC online before.

        Iffy:

        • They are intoxicated.
        • They appear genuinely apprehensive.
        • They are a random you’ve never seen an OC account for.
        • Voyeur content (unless you see a studio tag, this very well may be illegally recorded.)

        Likely NC:

        • Amateur self shots of teens; a TON of this content is underage/illegal, especially pre-Pornhub and smart phone era.