We’ve had a bit of a conversation, over in the big NoStupidQuestions community:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37540045
While I have my own opinions on lemmit.online, I think it’s relatively uncontroversial, that copying content from amateur and indie creators is unethical.
I’d like to request differentiating between the regular Reddit content, and amateur pornography plus OF creators and their original content. And deactivating the bridging for subreddits that contain a decent amount of the latter.
My rationale is more or less that it’s not very Robin Hood to take things from people who aren’t well off in the first place. And that more or less regular people have the right to decide what happens with pictures of their naked bodies, and we can’t just spread them across the internet without their consent or ability to closely control their intimate stuff.
I might have been inclined to agree with you, if the posts themselves didn’t include all the attribution and other data that is on the reddit posts themselves.
How do you feel this robs from content creators, rather than giving them more exposure? It’s not redistributing any content that’s behind a paywall, for example.
I’m not part of that “community” myself. But I’ve heard some creators want to stay in control where which pictures of them are accessible and how long, etc. I mean we’re talking about amateurs here, not professionals. Their situation might change, i.e. life, getting kids, new partner… And they might want to quit entirely. They should be allowed, And not have their pictures kept around by third parties. Which isn’t possible if we copy them to several other places. And they have the copyright. They might even want to advertise for short periods of time, or reconsider and delete some pictures they’re not comfortable with (any longer). Or advertise in a well-defined community and not like “more exposure” than that.
And a big issue is copyright violations. Quite some pictures on Reddit aren’t uploaded by the creators themselves, but uploaded by other people, without the depicted person’s consent. For example stolen from OF, Discord… Or re-posted from some dude’s harddrive. We can’t just spread that around, either.
I think giving people exposure, whether they like it or not is bad when it comes to nudes and sex. And even more so if we can’t even tell if it’s been uploaded by them and with their consent.
It’s noble of you to want to protect those people, but the moment they post content to reddit, they have given reddit the right to duplicate and redistribute their content as it sees fit. So the way I see it, that ship has sailed, and I’m pretty sure most creators are aware of this.
Having said that, if someone ever reports they want to take their content offline, I’ll gladly do so. So far, that hasn’t happened yet though.
Edited to add: the lemmit service doesn’t even copy most content, only relatively small (animated) images. On account of storage (and processing) larger files costs money. So most content is hotlinked. That means that when the original is removed from Reddit, it’s removed from lemmy as well.
And what’s with the other point, that a lot of content is uploaded (illegally) by other people? (Copyright-theft, re-posts, circulating revenge-porn, old pictures that people want to get rid of, …)
I’ll leave that to the reddit moderators and community to decide. There are thresholds in place to ensure they have time to filter out illegal material before it gets crossposted.
And again, so far no original poster has reported any posts on these bases. But I have no qualms with taking it down if they do.
Alright. I don’t share that perspective, but it’s your instance. Now you got one general complaint (and whoever agreed with me in the linked discussion, or defederated from lemmit.online for that reason), but that’s more on a meta-level. Thanks for listening.
One last question: Does the bridge (reliably) delete posts which got deleted on Reddit?
It does not, since it’s not a bridge, but a one-way syndication.