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The original was posted on /r/piracy by /u/TranscendentalLove on 2024-07-30 21:15:49+00:00.

Original Title: There is a lot of misinformation about the ‘outdatedness’ of MP3s. While Opus is great at lower bitrates like 192, a LAME 3.100-encoded V0 MP3 is even better (both quality and bang-for-your-buck space saving.) All MP3s are not the same and most people tend to use poor or outdated codecs.

The best non-FLAC audio quality is a LAME 3.100 encoded MP3 at the V0-preset or 320 CBR if you want to be excessive. If you want to save space and still have great quality, yes, 192 Opus is a great choice. However, there is a lot of misinformation about the ‘outdatedness’ of MP3s.

For 192, I agree, but for 320kbp/s, the only reason MP3 wouldn’t score higher than OPUS is if it’s using an outdated codec. The push for Opus and the scorn for MP3 makes me wonder if people are aware how many codecs exist for MP3 and that not all MP3s are alike.

People have these awfully-encoded 320 MP3s and just figured everything was like that.

Opus basically stops at 192. I’ve seen some calling 192 FLAC level quality while also saying a 320 MP3 is a no-go – this is a lot of what I’m seeing with the Opus diehards. This mindset show people don’t fully understand what they are talking about. It’s true that at 192, it becomes harder to tell the difference, but it’s certainly not impercetible. At V0/320, that is when it is arguably impercetible but even to this day diehard audiophiles will swear they hear a difference.

If you really love Opus, great. But stop hating on MP3s and telling people that a 192 will be better sounding than a properly-encoded V0. This is literally not true and is a disservice. If you don’t want FLACs but still want great sound quality, always convert your FLACs to V0 MP3, encoded by LAME 3.100.