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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/its_FORTY on 2024-12-19 00:13:04+00:00.


Making a post attempting to unite the sub and stop in-fighting is a valiant and nobel undertaking, and I applaud that enthuisasm. However, the OP then proceeded to incite more division by saying it’s now the “truthers” vs the “deniers”.

Can we maybe just not label everyone as all one thing or another? If you take a more nuanced look at what is going on in this sub lately, it is clearly not just a bunch of meritorious experiencers providing robust evidence yet being downvoted and baited by debunkers, deniers, or whatever you want to label those who dare have an opinion that the evidence being presented on any given post is prosaic.

What we are seeing here is a vast spectrum of people who are all interested, intrigued, and excited about what is going on in regards to UAPs, NHI, etc.

At one end of the specturm:

Those people who want so badly to experience something profound that they turn off their logical, rational brain and let imagination and wonder take over. These are the types who have been here in large numbers lately, loudy posting “drone reports” which are almost all attributable to poorly captured pictures and videos of planes, helos, etc upon even 30 seconds of scrutiny. These are fairly low percentage of those active on this sub.

On the other end of that spectrum:

The people who deny everything regardless of the validity and veracity of the evidence to support it. These are the people mocking us, belittling at every chance, starting fights, etc. These are fairly low percentage of those active on this sub.

Somewhere between those two endpoints:

The overwhelming majority of users on this sub, myself included. We aren’t as vocal or loud as the folks above, but we’re here day in and day out. We are watching closely for any news or reports from other redditors that have reasonably credible evidence. Things like the Go Fast and Gimbal videos, sworn testimony of whistleblowers like Grusch, or legitimate scientific researchers like Gary Nolan, Avi Loeb, Mark Masters and others. There are also quite a number of other videos and personal experiencer accounts who are very interesting and appreciated.

The fact is that the level of “evidence” being posted during this “drone” hysteria has dropped so low that has disillusioned a lot of folks here. We want to know the truth. Bombarding us with “UAP” pictures and videos that are clearly helicopters at night with FAA running lights, commercial airliners with dark colored livery, etc has is not getting us closer to the truth. It is creating so much distraction and nonsense traffic in the sub that if/when any valid posts are made they are even harder to find amonst the garbage.