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The original was posted on /r/menslib by /u/LengthinessRemote562 on 2023-08-27 17:15:12.


So I read FTLOM and the will to change, and I liked them, BUT I think FTLOM lacks that edge for me, something new, something surprising I wouldn’t have thought about.

What epitomizes this is the section on “Post Me-too rules”, which is: #1 Take stock of how much power you have (relational power), #2 When trying to date women at work, use the rule of one, #3 be aware that if the attraction is mutual, than it isn’t harassment, #4 You don’t have to avoid women, just not harass them, #5 When it comes to chivalry in the workplace, ask if you’re not able to tell, #6 Don’t do anything for women you wouldn’t also do for a man.

Her book is good, but I don’t see a purpose in reading it. Maybe its because I’ve already watched a lot of videos and read think pieces that use parts of her books, but I dont really learn enough from this book to justify buying something similar. Maybe its addressed to people who have recently escaped the “manosphere”, or something else, but I’d like to read a book that is a bit more in-depth.

I liked bell hooks book a bit more tbh, because it explored her and other women’s experiences more in-depth and this served as an aid to understand these issues.

TL;DR: I’d be interested in books that serve to deconstruct toxic masculine behaviors. I dont need them tied into a new masculine identity, but I’d like to eradicate the subtle misogyny I sadly unconsciously annoy/hurt my female friends with.