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The original was posted on /r/eu4 by /u/Wide_Mode7480 on 2025-06-23 19:02:28+00:00.


Was hoping to start a bit of a theory-crafting discussion about the best possible military you can build in EU4. I want to constrain it a bit, as I’m talking more about “what is the best possible military that can be sustained throughout the game” as opposed to “what is the best possible military you can have at any given point”. Therefore, I want to exclude temporary modifiers from this. In addition, to avoid making this a convoluted mess, one reasonable culture swap is allowed. By reasonable I mean a nearby cukture from the starting point. For example: Poland into Prussian culture, mamluks into Persian culture, Sweden into a Russian culture, etc. obviously some discretion comes with this, but I just want to avoid the whole “culture swap into Moroccan for the mission, then culture swap into Prussian, then culture swap into X country” stuff that just isn’t feasible for a typical campaign. This is also not purely a modifier stacking discussion, some people prefer discipline, some prefer morale, some prefer sheer quantity. For the purposes of this, all should be considered. I’d also include government reforms (on any tiers), government forms, special units, religious buffs, and indirect buffs (for example: max effect of absolutism increasing discipline or max military policies) but I am less well versed in those areas.

My choices-

  1. Gotland for the 5% discipline mission —> Hanseatic League for the 5% discipline —> culture swap to Prussia (keep the ideas)—> Germany
  2. Mamluks —> Egypt (for western units) —> Persia (keep the ideas) —> Zoroastrian Persia for monument
  3. Morocco (for mission) —> culture swap into Spain
  4. Some insane cav build involving Poland or Siam
  5. High American Aztec/Inca