This is an automated archive made by the Lemmit Bot.

The original was posted on /r/eu4 by /u/Thangaror on 2025-06-26 11:48:56+00:00.

We all are aware how much the player actions can impact the AI nations, even if we do not take an active hand in their affairs, by our sheer presence.

There are some nations that succeed in pretty much every game, no matter what the player does and even if event X turns out in their favour: Castille and Aragon don’t need to form Spain to be successful. Portugal just does their thing (player Granada is an obvious exception!).

Others just fail to get going quite often or can get crippled early on, and sometimes even the AI is able to curb the ambitions of a usually successful nation.

If you nick Constantinople from Byz early, the Ottomans will pretty much never rise to dominance. The AI though rarely is able to do so.

Muscovy is another example: if the Scandinavians take out large chunks of Novgorod early, which is something even the AI sometimes manages, Muscovy will just… stop doing stuff.

Are their any other nations that fall into this category?