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The original was posted on /r/permaculture by /u/TheBigJiz on 2025-07-17 14:33:05+00:00.


I live in a community that was built on farm land cleared in the 90’s. I remember, because I lived in the hills above at my dads house, and cursed the growth of the suburbs into the beloved farmland.

Life is funny, and I live in a condo surrounded by suburbia right there.

Long story short, I do most of the work for our HOA. There’s like 13 multi family units on a few acres. 3 other involved neighbors and I have been doing our best to keep expenses down, and save water. We don’t have a renters cap, so many of the units are owned by absent landlords. What I’m getting at is we have neighbors that don’t want to do ANYTHING. Just as long as we keep expenses down, there’s no reason we couldn’t do anything we want with this land.

Why not permaculture?

We have a budget for landscaping. We have a nice irrigation system. (We have big bountiful porcini mushrooms that come up all over the property that no one eats but me)

We are currently watering ornamental grasses and lawns that look like shit. They’re talking about just getting gravel to cover all of the grassy islands… Sad.

I asked my other board members in passing, “why are we watering and tending plants we can’t eat?” They were enthusiastically agreeing!

So now begins the search for a new “landscape” company… time to check the bi laws…

Edited to add: connected with a local food forest designer and he’s coming to consult soon!