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The original was posted on /r/collapse by /u/North-Fudge-2646 on 2025-08-10 11:43:51+00:00.


this is an idea ive seen a lot, that the only hope left for humanity is a massive purging of the global population and therefore a dramatic reduction in fossil fuel emissions

supposedly when fossil fuel emissions plummet, greenhouse gas forcing would drop and then recede, and human survivors of the bottleneck would have to adapt by living subsistence lifestyles on a planet that is slowly returning to homeostasis

Well thats wrong

lets leave aside how suspect it is to frame billions of deaths as the best possible outcome and how that sounds. but just logistically its wrong

i could go into the details but u/Suuperdad said it better than i could and provided what i found to be the best short summary of our predicament iv seen so far

https://preview.redd.it/vhlkyij6i6if1.png?width=1284&format=png&auto=webp&s=9391b5a197d18f968b2b67c20741ec51cc26ec62

https://preview.redd.it/9urranj6i6if1.png?width=1266&format=png&auto=webp&s=e6d87116dc0e848d59c9a9223cde853686a6c732

for context the original post this comment is called Study warns of a billion human deaths if global warming reaches or exceeds 2°C

climate change , if we still wanna use that euphemism, is not an iterative process where if you remove a primary driver, the effects will stop, like michael mann seems to think.

its a runaway process and a textbook example of chaos theory where initial conditions set into motion feedback loops that cannot be predicted or interrupted

maybe its just hopium that makes people think like this but i think its worth addresssing this clearly bc i havent really seen a discussion about it in a standalone post yet

hoping this post is allowed bc its not just a quote, its an invitation to discuss what i think is a critical misunderstanding even among the collapse-aware